podcast by makeshapes about learning,
transformation, and the future of work
Join us as we hunt for Shapeshifters – passionate individuals determined to (re)discover ways to transform people, organizations and communities for good. We’ll explore how these wayfinders are shaping the way we think, learn, interact, and collaborate together. Conversations spanning thought leaders, pioneering practitioners, community builders, movement sparkers, and more.
Join us as we pick the brains of the brightest minds, focusing on transformation and learning.
NEW EPISODEEP 12 · Aug 20, 2026 · 22 MIN
with Luke Morriss—Global Organisational Development Manager at Fisher & Paykel Appliances
EP 11 · Jun 8, 2026 · 74 MIN
with JD Dillon—Advisor, Speaker, Author, Technologist
EP 10 · Mar 24, 2026 · 64 MIN
with Anamaria Dorgo—Learning and Community Strategist, Founder of L&D Shakers
EP 09 · Mar 6, 2026 · 47 MIN
with Rodney Evans—Steward (CEO) of The Ready
EP 08 · Feb 19, 2026 · 57 MIN
with Sonia Clarke—Principal, Clever Manka
EP 07 · Feb 5, 2026 · 55 MIN
with Laura Overton—International speaker, Author, Founder of Learning Changemakers
EP 06 · Dec 19, 2025 · 55 MIN
with Etienne and Beverly Wenger-Trayner—Social Learning Theorists & Founders of the Social Learning Lab
EP 05 · Dec 4, 2025 · 45 MIN
with Barbara Harvey—Head of Learning @ Growth Faculty
EP 04 · Nov 20, 2025 · 44 MIN
with Michelle Ockers—Founder and Principal L&D Consultant, Learning Uncut
EP 03 · Nov 6, 2025 · 50 MIN
with Dave Stevens—CLO @ Advanced Learning Strategies
EP 02 · Oct 23, 2025 · 50 MIN
with Kayla Nalven—Founder of TED@Work
EP 01 · Oct 9, 2025 · 63 MIN
with Dominic Price—Work futurist at Atlassian
Mike lives in Auckland, New Zealand, with his wife and three kids. In his free time, you might find Mike running or learning something new—like Python.
“It was by far one of the most authentic, insightful podcast chats I’ve ever had. I greatly enjoyed your approach.”
JD Dillon
Author, Speaker · 50+ podcast guest appearances
“This was a great chat, Mike. I appreciate so much your thoughtful questions and listening and just tickling my brain this! Thank you.”
Anamaria Dorgo
Founder of L&D Shakers · 30+ podcast guest appearances
“Just wanted to say how much I appreciated the entire experience. You were absolutely amazing as a host. I honestly think you helped me say what I meant more clearly than I could’ve alone. That’s rare, and generous.”
Dave Stevens
Chief Learning Officer, Advanced Learning Strategies
“If you’re ever in Sydney give me a shout. Let’s grab a cuppa or a beer!”
Dominic Price
Work Futurist · TED speaker
“Mike, Etienne and I really enjoyed the podcast. Thank you for your good interviewing, it was a great conversation!”
Beverly Wenger-Trayner
Author, Consultant · social learning theorist (25+ yrs)
“I really enjoyed our conversation. You have a very natural, warm hosting style.”
Michelle Ockers
Chief Learning Strategist · 200+ episode podcast host
“I listened to the podcast and after I got over the personal cringe of myself I actually felt quite proud of it! We really had a great conversation and I think you were really skilled in taking it different directions.”
Barbara Harvey
Head of Learning, Growth Faculty
“This was such a great conversation, Mike. Thank you so much. It was really, really fun.”
Kayla Nalven
Founder of TED@Work
Michael Platt
Director, Wharton Neuroscience Initiative
The Royal Society
Sara De Felice, Antonia F. de C. Hamilton, Marta Ponari and Gabriella Vigliocco
HBR
Dr. David Rock and Josh Davis PhD
Priya Parker
Author, Speaker, Facilitator
Chris Anderson
Curator @ TED
Rachel Botsman
Leading expert on trust, author, writer and curator
Etienne and Beverly Wenger-Trayner
Social Learning Theorists & Founders of the Social Learning Lab
Linda Harasim
Research and Innovator in Social Media and Online Education
Saul McLeod
Author, Editor, PhD in Psychology
Searching for wayfinders of a new future
Shapeshifters is the flagship podcast from Makeshapes, the group learning platform on a mission to transform group learning for the modern workplace.
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